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[pdx_photos] Downtown Portland at Sunset
Posted in downtown PDX, liff in PDX, PDX Ephemera, pdx_photos on January 16, 2014 by Samuel John Klein Portlandiensis[pdx] Rich, Cold Sunrise, 12/12/13
Posted in My Best Portland Photos, pdx_photos on December 12, 2013 by Samuel John Klein Portlandiensis[pdx] PDX Street Sign Shop, Ca. 1916
Posted in pdx_blades, pdx_history, pdx_legends, pdx_lore, pdx_photos, Portland Geography, Portland History, Portland Legends, Portland Lore, Portland Pictures, Sign Design, Street Blade Gallery, street blades, Street Sign Gallery on October 21, 2009 by Samuel John Klein Portlandiensis2240.Fellow street sign blogger Eric Fischer, whose San Francisco work I’ve praised, has done me a definite solid and dropped a very beautiful thing my way.
As I may have alluded to in another post somewhere, Portland’s street blades have looked different. From, I’d estmate, around 1900 through the middle third of the 20th Century, PDX Street blades where these indesctructable iron things, with white and enamel paint, which looked like this:
As you can see, it’s very utilitarian. Blocky, almost-military letterforms – not graceful, but very very readable.
In a recent comment to the Cyclotram’s P13 Stark Street Milestone, fellow street sign blogger from San Francisco (whose work I enjoy) Eric Fischer pointed me to a most amazing publication, in the public domain and available in its entirety on Google Books. It was in this book, Municpal Engineering Practice, by A. Prescott Folwell and published in 1916 by Wiley and Sons (a book generally about designing and laying out cities), that I found the following view – the inside of Portland’s sign shop, ca. 1915 or so:
Lined up along the bottom there are signs for E. 70th ST. N (today’s NE 70th Avenue), E. 72nd ST. N., 50th AVE. SE (today’s SE Raymond Street), and 41st AVE SE (today’s SE Gladstone Street). I also see a rather big blade, reading (on two lines) PATTON ROAD/COUNTY ROAD, and there are signs for CRYSTAL SPRINGS BLVD, WISTARIA AVE, and possibly a deprecated style for WASHINGTON ST.
To go over it real quick again, before the Great Renaming of 1933, numbered streets east of the Willamette and north of Burnside not only carried the East prefix because of that but also the North suffix to extend west-side naming practice east in a uniform way; therefore 11th Street east of the Willamette and north of Burnside would be EAST 11TH STREET NORTH. The avenues suffixed SE were in the area south of Powell and east of E. 39th Avenue which, for reasons even not yet clear, had number congruent to today’s street blocks going out in both directions, though avenues ran east-west and streets north-south: therefore, 1916’s 50th Avenue SE would be today’s SE Raymond Street, which is the 5000 block (50th standard street name south of East Burnside) and 41st Avenue SE would be SE Gladstone Street – today’s 4100 block (41st standard street name south of East Burnside).
The viewer can no doubt find some things that I’ve missed, and it’s all interesting and good.
Thanks Eric … you definitely da man!
To view the page directly and download your own PDF of this book, surf to the following:
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New Style Street Blades Sighted At SE 92nd And Ellis
Posted in pdx_photos, Portland Street Blades, Sign Design, Street Blade Gallery, type design on March 18, 2009 by Samuel John Klein PortlandiensisComing in from the north on SE 92nd Avenue–our destination being the Oriental Food Value market on SE Insley just east of SE 82nd, and at that time of the day, coming in the “back” way rather than down 82nd is just the smarter thing to do–the SE Ellis Street blade presented itself with a visual shout, which is probably why they settled on this design:
Notable here is the way the new street blade for Ellis was perched atop an old street blade for SE 92nd Avenue (note that it’s the extruded blade, and not a sheet, as the new design is).
I was somewhat disappointed that there was no new 92nd Avenue blade until The Wife™ pointed across the intersection, on the Lents Little League field side of the street:
The visual difference is obvious. These blades are so easy to spot and find, which is proved every time we find a new one like this.
Here’s the money shot:
It’s interesting to see a new named-street blade that doesn’t say “SE Division St”, for now we have some idea of how the rest of the city will look once these blades are the standard.
And here’s a shot of the new-look cross including the 92nd Avenue blade:
And the documentation continues. If anyone who passes this way by these humble blog missives and lives in Portland (obvious point, yes) sees these new-look blades anywhere else in town, won’t you clue me in? I’d like to get some idea of how far these are going.
Technorati Tags: Street Blade Gallery, PDX Street Blades, street blades, street blade design, sign design, Portland Street Blades
New Style Street Blades Sighted At SE 92nd And Ellis
Posted in pdx_photos, Portland Street Blades, Sign Design, Street Blade Gallery, type design on March 18, 2009 by Samuel John Klein PortlandiensisComing in from the north on SE 92nd Avenue–our destination being the Oriental Food Value market on SE Insley just east of SE 82nd, and at that time of the day, coming in the “back” way rather than down 82nd is just the smarter thing to do–the SE Ellis Street blade presented itself with a visual shout, which is probably why they settled on this design:
Notable here is the way the new street blade for Ellis was perched atop an old street blade for SE 92nd Avenue (note that it’s the extruded blade, and not a sheet, as the new design is).
I was somewhat disappointed that there was no new 92nd Avenue blade until The Wife™ pointed across the intersection, on the Lents Little League field side of the street:
The visual difference is obvious. These blades are so easy to spot and find, which is proved every time we find a new one like this.
Here’s the money shot:
It’s interesting to see a new named-street blade that doesn’t say “SE Division St”, for now we have some idea of how the rest of the city will look once these blades are the standard.
And here’s a shot of the new-look cross including the 92nd Avenue blade:
And the documentation continues. If anyone who passes this way by these humble blog missives and lives in Portland (obvious point, yes) sees these new-look blades anywhere else in town, won’t you clue me in? I’d like to get some idea of how far these are going.
Technorati Tags: Street Blade Gallery, PDX Street Blades, street blades, street blade design, sign design, Portland Street Blades
How Do You Get A Rewrite For Street Blades?
Posted in pdx_photos, Sign Design, Sign Errors, Street Blade Gallery on March 15, 2009 by Samuel John Klein PortlandiensisDidn’t I get that wrong just there? Yep. So did whoever put up the street blades.
Also, I’ve been remiss. In my excitement over the apparently-revised look of the standard Portland street blade, I’ve left out mentioning there’s apparently an entire new look for the major intersections, as well. Let’s look:
The difference is of a class. Instead of having one type size handle the directional and the specific and smaller one for the generic on the Street blade and one type size for all type on the Avenue blade, we have one size for the directional and generic and a larger one for the specific on all blades.
This has the distinctive characteristic, via the design concept of hierarchy, to make the specifics (the street/avenue names themselves) come up front and center. While the supporting information is now smaller, it’s uniformly so, but not so very small; moreover, these signs are about 20 per cent larger than the old design, so everything is large.
Also, due to what has to be some error (or perhaps a rift in the fabric of space that happened that I missed), Northeast Glisan Street at the corner of Glendoveer Golf Course is crossed, improbably, by Southeast 148th Avenue.
Going down to 148th and Stark, in the shadow of the 7-Eleven store, we have the same anomaly:
Also:
The mistake at the southwest corner of 148th and Stark was repeated over on the southeast corner as well. Just looking at the signs is kind of mind-bending.
Can the city sign shop get rewrite on this? Or, put another way … can we fix this in “post”?
Technorati Tags: Street Blade Gallery, Portland Street Blades, SE Stark Street, Street Sign errors, street blades
How Do You Get A Rewrite For Street Blades?
Posted in pdx_photos, Sign Design, Sign Errors, Street Blade Gallery on March 15, 2009 by Samuel John Klein PortlandiensisDidn’t I get that wrong just there? Yep. So did whoever put up the street blades.
Also, I’ve been remiss. In my excitement over the apparently-revised look of the standard Portland street blade, I’ve left out mentioning there’s apparently an entire new look for the major intersections, as well. Let’s look:
The difference is of a class. Instead of having one type size handle the directional and the specific and smaller one for the generic on the Street blade and one type size for all type on the Avenue blade, we have one size for the directional and generic and a larger one for the specific on all blades.
This has the distinctive characteristic, via the design concept of hierarchy, to make the specifics (the street/avenue names themselves) come up front and center. While the supporting information is now smaller, it’s uniformly so, but not so very small; moreover, these signs are about 20 per cent larger than the old design, so everything is large.
Also, due to what has to be some error (or perhaps a rift in the fabric of space that happened that I missed), Northeast Glisan Street at the corner of Glendoveer Golf Course is crossed, improbably, by Southeast 148th Avenue.
Going down to 148th and Stark, in the shadow of the 7-Eleven store, we have the same anomaly:
Also:
The mistake at the southwest corner of 148th and Stark was repeated over on the southeast corner as well. Just looking at the signs is kind of mind-bending.
Can the city sign shop get rewrite on this? Or, put another way … can we fix this in “post”?
Technorati Tags: Street Blade Gallery, Portland Street Blades, SE Stark Street, Street Sign errors, street blades